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Timeline AA11 30 Jan 2009 18:43 #50

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Aus einem Forumsbeitrag von "Calvin"

Hier ein Ausschnitt aus der Timeline am Beispiel AA11 - zur Veranschaulichung dessen, was im Zeitraum zwischen der Entführung und dem Absturz in den Flugaufsichtsstellen geschehen ist. Die Ereignisse im Flugzeug selbst habe ich nicht aufgelistet. (nachlesen siehe link)

7:59 Start AA11 von Boston Logan Airport

8:13 Letzter Routinekontakt mit der Flugaufsicht. Pete Zalewski (Boston Center)versucht 10 min lang, den Kontakt herzustellen. AA11 hat keinen Code "HJCK" übermittelt.

8:13 -8:21 Irgendwann in diesem Zeitraum wird das Transpondersignal ausgeschaltet

8:20 Der AA-Flugdienst in Forth Wort, Texas, erhält Kenntnis von dem Kommunikationsproblem mit AA11

8:20 Das IFF-Signal von AA11 wird ausgeschaltet (IFF=identified friend or foe)

8:20 Boston Flight Control Center schlussfolgert, AA11 müsse entführt worden sein, unterlässt es aber für weitere 5 Minuten, andere Flugleitstellen zu informieren; und für weitere 14 Minuten, NORAD zu informieren

8:25 BFCC informiert andere Flugleitstellen

8:25 BFCC begreift, dass es sich wirklich um eine Entführung handelt

8:25 BFCC fängt an, sich die Befehlskette im Entführungsfall in Erinnerung zu rufen

8:26 BFCC beobachtet die Flugbewegungen von AA11 auf dem Radar

8:28 BFCC teilt dem FAA Control Center in Herndon mit, dass sie glauben, AA11 sei entführt worden. FAA startet eine Telefonkonferenz zwischen Boston, New York und Cleveland Flight Control Centers, unterlässt es aber, das Pentagon (NMCC) bzw. NORAD zu informieren

8:34 BFCC kontaktiert Otis Air National Guard Base, Cape Cod, Massachusetts(außerhalb der Befehlskette). Es dauert 4-5 min, dann starten zwei? F-15 .

8:35 /8:37 BFCC informiert die NEADS (NORAD)

8:37 UA175 wird gebeten, nach AA11 Ausschau zu halten. Die Piloten sagen, sie können AA11 sehen. Wenige Minuten später wird UA175 entführt.

8:37 NEADS (NORAD) kann AA11 nicht orten

8:38 AA11 hört auf, den seit 8:13 wiederholt betätigten "TalkBackButton" zu aktivieren

8:38 -8:43 NEADS (NORAD) glaubt, dass es sich um eine Übung handelt

8:40 NEADS (NORAD) versucht, alle verfügbaren Informationen über das Flugzeug zu bekommen, kann aber nicht erkennen, was AA11 beabsichtigt. Sie erfahren, dass es "Gefahr im Cockpit" gibt.

8:41 UA175 wird entführt

8:42 Beinahe-Kollision zwischen AA11 und UA 175

8:46 Flug AA11 stürzt in den Nordturm

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9:03 Flug UA175 stürzt in den Südturm

Link:
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?day_of_9/11=aa11&timeline=complete_911_timeline
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Aw: Timeline AA11 21 Jul 2009 16:08 #166

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Reports about Aa11 being still airborne after 8.46.

Phantom Flight 11: summary of evidence

When the 9/11 Commission report was published, it revealed a big surprise: The so-called Phantom Flight 11. It was reported up to 45 minutes after the North Tower crash, "on its way to Washington".

The 9/11 Commission is positive this was an erroneous info: "We were unable to identify the source of this mistaken FAA information."

So who was thinking flight 11 was still airborne?

p. 21: 8:48: Air Controller (Dave Bottiglia), FAA manager (Mike McCormick) were watching Flight 11 on the radar screen:

At 8:48, while the controller was still trying to locate American 11, a NewYork Center manager provided the following report on a Command Centerteleconference about American 11:

Manager, New York Center: Okay. This is New York Center. We're watching the airplane. I also had conversation with American Airlines, and they've told us that they believe that one of their stewardesses was stabbed and that there are people in the cockpit that have control of the aircraft, and that's all the information they have right now.124

The New York Center controller and manager were unaware that American11 had already crashed.


p. 22: 8:55: Regional managers discussed the hijacked Flight 11 (surely NOT the plane that hit the North Tower - the connection was not established yet):

At about 8:55, the controller in charge notified New York Center manager that she believed United 175 had also been hijacked. The manager tried to notify the regional managers and was told that they were discussing a hijacked aircraft (presumably American 11) and refused to be disturbed.


p. 26: 9:21: Boston Center informs NEADS that Flight 11 is still airborne. The information came from FAA headquarters:

Two planes had struck the World Trade Center, and Boston Center had heard from FAA headquarters in Washington that American 11 was still airborne.


p. 37: The NMCC deputy director for operations, Charles Leidig, forwards news of the still airborne Flight 11 to a teleconference via a phone bridge:

Inside the NMCC, the deputy director for operations called for an all-purpose "significant event" conference. It began at 9:29, with a brief recap: two aircraft had struck the World Trade Center, there was a confirmed hijacking of American 11, and Otis fighters had been scrambled.The FAA was asked to provide an update, but the line was silent because the FAA had not been added to the call.A minute later, the deputy director stated that it had just been confirmed that American 11 was still airborne and heading toward D.C. He directed the transition to an air threat conference call. NORAD confirmed that American 11 was airborne and heading toward Washington, relaying the erroneous FAA information already mentioned.The call then ended, at about 9:34.


ALL this people were thinking that Flight 11 was still airborne after the North Tower crash, yet the Commission wants to make us believe this was just an "erroneous information" from FAA headquarters?

The phone bridges were established since 8:45. Enough time to correct the "erroneous information", if it was one in fact erroneous.

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/du...ll&address=125x47725
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