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CVR: Warum die Unterschiede zwischen 2002 und 2004 06 Apr 2011 20:42 #1866

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The newly releaed transcript of the CVR corresponds quite well with the statements of the Commission. Well, that's not really a surprise. May I ask how many days it takes with your Mac to produce a radioplay of below-average sound quality??

But do you remember this?

On April 18, 2002 family members were finally allowed to listen to the cockpit voice recorder. “The FBI initially declined to play the tape, saying it was too disturbing, and it was evidence that might be used in criminal prosecutions related to the attacks of September 11.” (Among the Heroes, p. 374). The family members were “forbidden from recording the tape or from taking notes” (p. 375).
Family members agreed that the passengers managed to enter the cockpit. Also Assistant United States Attorney David Novak “theorizes that the passengers had advanced into the cockpit”. (Among the Heroes, p. 376). And the Guardian writes
“a group of passengers overpowered the hijackers”.]
www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,687 ...

This is what according to family members can be heard at the end of the recording:
“One of the hijackers spoke about finishing off the flight, though the transcript suggested he could have been referring to the woman who had pleaded earlier for her life. Not yet, another terrorist cautioned.
Near the end of the tape, muted voices seemed to grow louder, closer. The scuffing continued. “I'm injured,” someone said in English. More shouting: “roll it” and “pull it up” or “lift it up” or “turn up”. A final rushing sound could be heard and, about three minutes after ten, the tape went silent”.
(Among the Heroes, p. 377)

So: No intention of the hijackers to crash the plane is heard. The last shoutings even indicate the intention to lift up the plane.

And what's about this?

Newsweek did obtain a transcript of the CVR recordings and wrote an article based on it and guess what. They didn't READ anything about the hijackers TWICE deciding to crash the plane:
That makes in the sum:
The family member didn't hear nor read what the Commission claims
Officials didn't hear it neither
Newsweek didn't read it neither.
(Newsweek, 12/3/01)

And this:
"Families of passengers and crew members aboard United Flight 93, the hijacked plane that crashed outside Shanksville, Pa., on Sept. 11, will hear nothing to resolve crucial questions about their loved ones' last minutes when they listen to the cockpit voice recorder next month, say officials who have heard the tape or read transcripts of it.
Officials said the tape, a loop that records the last 30 minutes of a flight, did not record the moments when the hijackers got into the cockpit and does not resolve how they took over or whether the pilot and copilot were then killed. It also does not make clear whether the passengers were able to force their way into the cockpit in an effort to regain control of the plane or whether the hijackers crashed the Boeing 757 deliberately or just lost control of it."
(New York Times, 3/27/02)

Now, on the one hand two sources claim that the CVR doesn't allow any conclusion about what happened to the plane and teh family members even believed their beloved ones managed to enter the cockpit and tacking the control of the plane. On the other hand we have the newly released transcript and the CR that clearly state that the alleged hijackers twice decided to crash trhe plane into the ground (not heard by family members) and we don't have what family members heard at the very end of the recordings: "roll it up" (in English and calmly spoken if I recall correctly).

How can we explain the huge discrepancies between what family members and a source heard and Newsweek concluded from reading a trsncript and now the released transcripts?
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