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Timelines der "Hijacker" 02 Apr 2011 22:36 #1828

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Ich habe einfach mal meine Recherchen von früher aufs Netz gepflanzt. Vielleicht sind sie ja nützlich.

Hier zu den Timelines:
johndoeii.blog.com/category/timelines-of-alleged-hijackers/

Ansonsten hier ein Vorgeschmack: Ein Überblick über die Fundstücke:



Summary of findings :

Here a list of the results of the research on the 19 alleged hijackers.
Please read the files on the alleged hijackers you’re interested in for further information.


Proof of an alleged hijacker having a double:
Mohamed Atta
Marwan Al Shehhi

Very strong indications of an alleged hijacker having a double:
Jarrah
Hani Hanjour

Strong indications of an alleged hijacker having a double:
Khalid Almihdhar
Salem Alhazmi
Nawaf Alhazmi

Considerable indications of an alleged hijacker having a double:
Ahmed Alghamdi
Hamza Alghamdi
Waleed Al Shehri

Strong indications of an identity of an alleged hijacker created AFTER 911:
Abdulaziz Al Omari


Very strong indications that somebody with the same name entered the country before the official entrance date:
Saeed Alghamdi
Ahmed Alnami
Ziad Jarrah
Majed Moqed
Salem Alhazmi
Hani Hanjour
Khalid Almihdhar
Nawaf Alhazmi
Ahmed Alghamdi
Hamza Alghamdi
Marwan Al Shehhi
Satam Al Suqami
Fayez Banihammad
Mohamed Atta (according to Able Danger)
Marwan Al Shehhi (according to Able Danger)
Comment: The case of alleged hijackers clearly being in the US before their official entrance date is by far more than only a proof of an inaccurate investigation. It is far more than that. The entrance date are documented by INS papers. Therefore we can conclude that either these documents have been faked by the INS then we need to wonder what could be so important to cover up? Or the INS documents are authentic than we can conclude that one person with the name of an alleged hijacker did indeed enter the country while another person with the same name of an alleged hijacker was already in the US. So, it would be another proof of having two different people using the very same identity.
Very interesting is the case of Able Danger: As Atta, Al Shehhi, Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi have been identified as a terrorist cell in January 2000 although Atta and Al Shehhi still were in Germany and Almhdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi only arrived mid-January in the US (but not in New York but in California) we can conclude that the persons being identified as possible terrorists can’t be the same that at the same time still lived in Germany or just arrived at the other coast of the US.



People having the same name as alleged hijackers having attended military schools in the US:

Saeed Alghamdi
Ahmed Alnami
Ahmed Alghamdi
Abdulaziz Al Omari
Mohamed Atta
Comment: Since the Pentagon said that the people attending the military schools are “probably” not the same as the alleged hijackers the media completely dropped this question although no clear answer has ever been given.

Alleged hijackers being at one point illegally in the US:
Khalid Almihdhar (since August 27, 2001)
Satam Al Suqami (since May 21, 2001)
Mohamed Atta
Nawaf Alhazmi
Hani Hanjour
Ziad Jarrah
Marwan Al-Shehhi
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Aw: Timelines der "Hijacker" 03 Apr 2011 06:07 #1831

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Das FBI hat erstmals konkrete Daten seiner "PENTTBOM" genannten größten Untersuchung aller Zeiten veröffentlicht. Titel der Files: "Hijacker Timelines". Und das, wo ich noch vor zwei Wochen überhaupt diesen vorherigen unbefriedigenden Zustand letztmalig bemängelte. (ist es zuvor überhaupt groß aufgefallen?)

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Ich glaube die lesen deine Posts John Doe II. Aber wie umfangreich die Timelines auch immer sein mögen, eines wird man garantiert in diesen nicht finden- irgendeinen konkreten Tatbezug. Aus den Umständen lässt sich nur schließen, dass tatsächlich eine Gruppe Leute in die USA einreiste und dort lebte- mehr nicht.
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Aw: Timelines der "Hijacker" 03 Apr 2011 06:18 #1832

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Erstmals stimmt so nicht, es ist wohl die größte Veröffentlichung, es gab aber 2008 schon mal eine "Vorabversion" auf Grund einer FOIA-Anfrage. Allein der Umstand, dass Material zum Kriminalfall des Jahrhunderts überhaupt erst herausgepresst werden muss ist schon bizarr.

Hier die Analyse der Daten damals:

www.historycommons.org/news.jsp?oid=140393703-423
www.rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_documents...Commission_0228.html

John Doe II, es ist dein Spezialgebiet, gib du den Takt vor, auf welchen Punkt wir uns fokussieren sollten. Welcher die klarsten Lügen im FBI-File belegt.



September 11, 2001: Weapons Found on Additional Planes Indicate Possible inside Help for Hijackers
Later in the day of 9/11, weapons are found planted on board three US airplanes. A US official will say, “These look like inside jobs.” Time magazine will later report, “Sources tell Time that US officials are investigating whether the hijackers had accomplices deep inside the airports’ ‘secure’ areas.” [TIME, 9/22/2001] Penetrating airport security does not appear to have been that difficult: Argenbright, the company in charge of security at all the airports used by the hijackers, had virtually no security check on any of its employees, and even hired criminals and illegal immigrants. Security appears to be particularly abysmal at Boston’s Logan Airport, even after 9/11. [BOSTON GLOBE, 10/1/2001; CNN, 10/12/2001] An FAA official had similar concerns about two other security contractors at Logan Airport: Huntleigh USA, a subsidiary of ICTS International NV, a large Israeli security company, and Globe Aviation. [ASSOCIATED PRESS, 9/11/2001; CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR, 1/8/2002; 9/11 COMMISSION, 3/11/2004, PP. 6 ]

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Aw: Timelines der "Hijacker" 03 Apr 2011 06:37 #1833

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Ich glaube, dass hier gilt 1 zu 1 auch jetzt noch:

It’s interesting to compare the results of the 9/11 Commission with the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry that proceeded it. For instance, while the 9/11 Commission downplayed any possible ties between the hijackers and the Saudi government, the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry wrote an entire chapter on the topic. Unfortunately, all 28 pages of that chapter were censored. But Sen. Bob Graham, co-chair of the inquiry, later claimed that evidence relating to the two hijackers who lived in San Diego “presented a compelling case that there was Saudi assistance” to the 9/11 plot. He alleged that Omar al-Bayoumi in fact was a Saudi intelligence agent. He also concluded that President Bush directed the FBI “to restrain and obfuscate” investigations into these ties.

Now, we’re finally beginning to see some of what was in those missing 28 pages. One anonymous official who has seen the pages claims: “We’re not talking about rogue elements. We’re talking about a coordinated network that reaches right from the hijackers to multiple places in the Saudi government.”

The 9/11 Commission also downplayed the idea that the hijackers had any assistance in the US. The 9/11 Congressional Inquiry, by contrast, noted that many people who interacted with the hijackers in the US, including Omar al-Bayoumi, were under FBI investigation even before 9/11.

Unfortunately, neither the 9/11 Commission nor the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry was a complete and unbiased investigation. If this timeline reflects just some of what only the FBI knew about the hijackers one month after the attacks, one can only guess at how much more all the US agencies combined know about the hijackers now. Why is that information being kept secret?
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Aw: Timelines der "Hijacker" 03 Apr 2011 06:51 #1834

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Re: Timelines der "Hijacker" 03 Apr 2011 07:39 #1835

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911blogger.com/news/2011-04-01/foia-resp...antos#comment-248087


In dem File "Threat Notifications August 1 2001" ist auf Seite 5 die Rede davon, dass Ali Mohammed, der CIA-Ägypten-Doppelagent, der schon 1990 die ersten WTC-Angreifer ausbildete, sich schuldig bekannt hätte zu den Anschlägen in Afrika 1998, in 5 Anklagepunkten.


Interessant. Eine Anklage, ein Urteil, eine Haftstrafe? Nichts dazu ist bekannt.

Was solls, niemand fällt es auf, wozu auch.

www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=ali_mohamed
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